By the way, I'm really quite pleased with the Tungsten C. It feels less sluggish (400 MHz Strongarm cpu), it has ample memory (64mb), the screen is terrific (but harder to read outside) and the 802.11b wifi is neat. Drawbacks are the above-average weight, the fact that there are way too few open hotspots (but it's nice enough not have to go upstairs to check email) and that documents to go and the adobe pdf converter require windoze. So I only get to use that at work ...